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The Starfighters and The Pits Rehearsal Rooms – Granville Street

The Starfighters

The Starfighters

A more classic example of a rags to riches – to rags again cautionary tale of the music industry could not wish to be found than that of Birmingham’s Starfighters.  Formed in 1979 the band comprised of Steve ‘Bertie’ Burton (vocals) – previously of Birmingham rock band Cryer, Stevie Young (guitar), Pat Hambly (guitar), Doug Dennis (bass) and Steve Bailey (drums) and followed a very hard rock/ACDC-type groove – understandable with Stevie Young being the cousin of ACDC’s Angus and Malcolm (a band with whom Stevie would tour covering for Malcolm in the late 1980s).

Signed to Jive records (who at that time hosted an eclectic artist list including Tight Fit, A Flock of Seagulls, Billy Ocean and Samantha Fox!), things looked bright for the band.  A self-titled album was released in1981 featuring a raucous blend of hard blues-based rock with Bertie’s rasping, sneering vocals on such track as Don’t Touch Me – a uptempo ditty about a flasher with a penchant for younger viewers – a real standout.

The band hit the pub/club circuit relentlessly and began to gain some press and support slots to some of the bigger names in the hard rock/metal scene of the early 80s.  Often retrospectively co-opted into the ‘New Wave of British Heavy Metal’ genre, the Starfighters ploughed a more lonely furrow – not succumbing to the increasingly bouffant brigade that was beginning to emerge through such bands as the Tygers of Pan Tang, Def Leppard etc – preferring to keep to the tradition of unpretentious, hard drinking rock and roll.

Following the 1983 release of their second album, In-Flight Movie (featuring the Starfighters battle-cry ‘Who Cares’) the band were on tour in the States when they were unceremoniously dropped by their record label . . . and drifted into Birmingham band history.

Fortunately, around 1987 two great things occurred in the history of the Starfighters.  Firstly, Bertie and Stevie decided to give the band another try and reformed – with Rick Sanford (guitar), ex-Surface Jamie Hawkins (drums) and ex-Hostage Steve ‘Redvers’ Hill (bass) – and I met them!  Not that the latter was of any significance in their career but does allow me to introduce a few anecdotes to this tale.

By this time the band were based at a rehearsal studio called The Pits  – having previously been based at a house in Rotton Park Road on the side of the disused railway embankement into which they joked the house was gradually slipping due to the vibrations caused by their extremely loud rehearsals there – which was housed in an incredibly old three storey early Victorian industrial premises on Granville Street backing onto the then-Davenports brewery.  The various floors were accessed via the narrowest, steepest wooden stairs imaginable – almost like long ladders – which I spent a considerable amount of time – in various states of sobriety – falling down and up!  The very top floor contained a ‘recording studio’ and a ‘lounge’ with a pioneering half ceiling which contained Bertie’s bed, as he also lived there.

Regular inhabitants, Bertie aside, of The Pits were a band called Pavlov’s Dogs and Frazer Young – Stevie’s brother – who was an absolute madman and served as the band’s roadie/tour manager/security and just about anything he wanted to be as – despite being of diminutive stature – had a wild temper and heavy Glaswegian accent and, after a few Jack Daniels, could turn from your best friend to your worst enemy in the blinking of an eye . . . remember Robert Carlyle’s ‘Begbie’ character in Trainspotting?  In the bowels of the studio also lurked Phil – a hippie sound engineer with a yellow Luton van and a Tac Blue mixing desk who ran their PA service for local gigs.  Finally, a band from Whitehaven – Teacher – along with a couple of girl friends of theirs – had also come down to live in Birmingham and various members of them and their entourage also kipped down there most nights.

Anyway, back to the band! I got to know them well through working for a PA company and getting to know Phil and through working at Edward’s Number 8 nightclub where Bertie would come for a drink from time to time.  Further, I also did bits of roadie work for a band called the Redbeards from Texas who were long-time mates of the Starfighters . . . if I was particularly drunk and/or too skint to get home from the City Centre, I’d stagger up to The Pits at any time of the night and be given a sleeping bag and a mug of coffee . . . Bertie was an incredibly hospitable chap!

I saw them a few times in the late 80’s era at Birmingham University, an incredibly good turn at the Portland Club in Ladywood along with the Redbeards, and at an Edward’s Number 8 organised metal all-dayer at Goldwyn’s nightclub which, again, was an absolute knockout.  Their energy live was incredible and boy could Bertie sing – and drink, his trademark bottle of Jack Daniels on stage during the set – and spike Rick Sanford’s pint with something rather hallucinogenic causing Rick, mid-gig, to do something rather unseemly in a plastic cup on stage . . . but we won’t go into that any further!

It was during a very late night intoxicated chat with Bertie that I asked what happend to the ‘Mark I’ lineup on their US tour.  Apparently, the band spent their entire US tour’s money from the record company within the first few days of the tour and then when they contacted Jive for more funds, on the back of a few other ‘issues’ with the band,  were swiftly dismissed from the label.  Unfortunately, they had no money to get home so a couple of the band had to get some casual work to get the money together to fly home!

Apart from feeling very lucky to have been around the band and having seen them live – as they were truly a great live act – they were also responsible for one of my biggest regrets.  One night I was at The Pits with ex-Cryer bassist Fez Ferriday and Metallica sound engineer (Big) Mick Hughes having a beer and a chat with Bertie between a sound check and a gig at either Edward’s or Goldwyns.  Apparently a couple of minutes after we left, long-time friend of Bertie’s Ozzy Osbourne turned up for a binge – still gutted to this day that I missed that as Ozzy is another ‘hero’ of mine!

The ‘Mark II’ line up of the band was all too short lived and split in 1989 with Bertie going on to form the E-Numbers who were – whilst good live – more of a traditional blues band and not of the high-aggression and energy of the Starfighters.  In more recent years Bertie fronted Vincent Flatts Final Drive who released several albums (all of which appear to be now only available second hand) and toured relentlessly through Europe and the US with their southern rock stylings.

The last contact I had with any of them was with Pat Hambly – who I hadn’t known during his period in the band – who runs a gents hairdressers (Hair Razors) on Weoley Castle Square.  I went in for a trim and saw a Starfighters poster up on the wall so asked where he’d got it from – as soon as he said he used to be in the band it clicked who he was (second from left in the above photograph) and we had a good old natter about the band.

Shame they’re not still going – as I’m sure anyone who saw them live would agree – and I’ve no idea if Bertie is still gigging:  if anyone knows please post the details.  Both their albums have been released on CD too for anyone interested – I’d recommend them – with bonus tracks not on the vinyl releases and are available from the US on Amazon.

As for The Pits, things went a little downhill following a gig at the Powerhouse when the PA – engineered by Phil – was far from up to scratch and he was last seen being chased down Ridley Street by Fraser Young with a piece of 4 by 2 in his hand.  The studio building has sadly long been demolished and is now a complex of appartments.

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Discussion

30 comments for “The Starfighters and The Pits Rehearsal Rooms – Granville Street”

  1. Hiya. Bertie isn’t really doing much these days. I keep in touch with a friend of mine who knows him very well. Bertie will hopefully performing at Upton Upon Severn Blues festival this year (2009). I really feel Bertie is the best singer front man ever!!

    Posted by Richard Shelton | June 4, 2009, 10:52 pm
  2. Thanks for the info Richard – Bertie really should be out there giving his all, ask your friend to tell him to get the E-Numbers gigging again . . . it’s a waste of talent to not be performing.

    Posted by Andy Doherty | June 6, 2009, 12:21 am
  3. Thanks for an interesting article. I’m a big fan from Slovakia and it’s nearly impossible to find any info about them (except the booklets of their 2 remasters). Real shame this band never made it big…

    I got two questions… Is there a song named “Greatwhite Telephone” on their second LP? ‘Cause I got it in mp3, but there’s not this one on remastered “In-Flight Movie” CD.

    And the second one… I found this on wikipedia:
    “Starfighters reformed again for a one off show on Friday 10 November 2006 at ‘The Roadhouse’ in South Birmingham to raise money for charity, with the lineup of Steve Burton (vocals) Stevie Young (guitars and vocals), Pat Hambly (guitars), Doug Dennis (bass and vocals) and Birmingham sticks stalwart Tony Bayliss (drums).”
    Is this true? Does exist any articles, photos, audio or video recording of this event? Seeing them in original lineup (except the drummer) sure must have been a dream come true…

    Posted by Peter | June 17, 2009, 8:43 pm
  4. Pete Feenstra would like to book Flatts again if they could keep a stable line-up

    Posted by Pete Feenstra | July 20, 2009, 4:38 pm
  5. The band actually hail from Birmingham and have toured the USA three times and even appeared at the prestigious Soda Blues Club in Costa Rica, opening for Johnny Winter.

    Described by Time Out as “Jack Daniels soaked, ZZ Top/Allman Brothers influenced, Confederate rock, boogie & blues”, Vincent Flatts take their name from the American motorcycle handlebars. Their music is best described as American roots music, ranging from the New Orleans swamp of Little Feat and southern growl of Omar & The Howlers through to rockin’ Hank Williams, anthemic Lynyrd Skynyrd and of course West Texas Boogie.

    Chicago’s roadhouse rocker Michael Katon said of Flatts; “These guys play my music better than I do”, whilst after a tour with Canned Heat, Heat’s founder member Fito De La Parra concluded; “These guys boogie with the best of them, and some more!”

    Led by the legendary Steve “Bertie” Burton (Starfighters/E Numbers/AC DC), Flatts include Trevor Bruton guitarist Martin Curly, and top session drummer Jamie Little in their line-up. But it is the stetsoned Bertie who is the focal point of the band.

    “We started this band as an attempt to play the classic American music that radio stations seem to have left behind in the 70’s. It’s a strange thing, because this music contains elements of rock, Country, blues boogie and funk, and all those types of music are still very popular. ZZ Top are a huge band, Skynyrd still tour the world and we’re playing all over the place. So there must be people out there who loves this stuff”

    The band’s new album is their third, and was recorded live in the studio at BBC Pebble Mill studios and is everything you would expect from a good time party band. The band’s live show is a good old-fashioned rock & roll powerhouse fronted by one of the most colourful personalities ever to tread the boards. With a mix of Lynyrd Skynyrd; The Georgia Satellites; The Fabulous Thunderbirds; ZZ Top; Omar & The Howlers; Michael Katon; Canned Heat; and Little Feat all gloriously topped by Flatts own classic Southern style rockin’, Vincent Flatts Final Drive offer you a take home slice of Americana that you will never forget.

    Posted by Pete Feenstra | July 20, 2009, 4:49 pm
  6. I saw the mighty Starfighters live in Reading at a Heavy Metal All Dayer in 1981. They still are one of my big favourites. Just the other day I found There Aint No Substitute… with The Vincent Flatts. Great to hear Berties voice again!

    Rolf, Sweden

    Posted by Rolf Corneliusson | July 21, 2009, 12:12 pm
  7. I can help on the latter. They did indeed reform for a charity show in aid of St Mary’s Hospice. I took my old camera along and you can find the pics here; just scroll down to Novemebr 2006 dates;

    http://liverockmusicphotography.fotopic.net/

    Posted by Rich Ward | July 30, 2009, 12:35 am
  8. Excellent stuff Rich, many thanks for the post – as well as the Starfighters photos there are some real gems on your site that brought back many memories of people I used to knock about with . . . Marshall law, Tony Glidewell of Dizzy Lizzy etc . . . definitely recommend all readers to spend some time having a browse through your site!

    Posted by Andy Doherty | August 4, 2009, 12:43 pm
  9. If anyone knows of any planned gigs – let me know!

    Posted by Andy Doherty | August 4, 2009, 12:45 pm
  10. Thanks a million Rich! All I can say is WOW! Wish I was there…

    If there is anyone, who bootlegged this show (audio/video), let me know!

    Again, thanks a bunch!

    Posted by Peter | August 6, 2009, 9:26 pm
  11. Thanx alot, Rich! Awesome!

    Posted by Rolf Corneliusson | August 19, 2009, 4:55 pm
  12. Rick’s surname is Sandford, I think Garry Sharpe is responsible for propagating the misspelling on Rockdetector. Redvers is actually Steve’s real middle name so he is Steve Redvers Hill as well as Steve ‘Redvers’ Hill. You forgot Wee Stevie on the list of permanent residents.

    The Portland Club gig was fantastic, but who were first support? I remember gaffer taping their drumkit to the stage to stop it slipping on the parquet surface and remarkably it worked.

    Posted by Phil | September 11, 2009, 1:54 pm
  13. Garry Sharpe, mentioned above, was one of the cast you might have met around The Pits. His day job was as a graphic designer for Light and Sound Design (yes, Birmingham’s premier tour sound and light company really was called LSD) when they were in the former bus garage near the Blues ground. But he also wrote for Metal Forces and other rock magazines. His big contribution to Pits life was to design the fantastic Starfighters t-shirt, a pastiche of a Jack Daniels label before that became a bit of a cliche.

    Garry Sharpe-Young, as he became, went on to be a very successful rock journalist and author, and set up the encyclopaedic website Rockdetector (now Musicmight). More recently he moved to New Zealand and was working hard to bring live rock music to his corner of the North Island – his big coup was Fleetwood Mac, and it was rumoured that Slash was going to be headlining this year’s G-Taranaki, the guitar festival that was his particular baby.

    Sadly, Garry died of an aneurysm on March 12 2010 at the age of 45. He’s survived by his wife Grace-Anne and their three children. My heart goes out to all of them for their loss.

    Posted by Phil | March 27, 2010, 6:06 pm
  14. Hi Phil, yes I remember Garry well and had the Starfighters t-shirt based on the JD label you mention. I seem to recall on the back was the slogan “Who gives a f*ck . . . No f*cker!”! Sad to hear of his passing.

    Posted by Andy Doherty | March 28, 2010, 3:03 pm
  15. Hiya dude, I was the bass player in Vincent Flatts, I am on both “just A Few More Years” and “Flatt Out”. I survived 5 years on the road with Bert, man what a trip. I had done a fair old bit in the business before I met up with Bert but this band could kick some ass, although I say it myself, we put the Rock back into Rock and Roll. Great crazy rockin time, I loved every second of it then joined The Notorious Brothers. Peace man …. John Hill aka Boss Hog

    Posted by Boss Hog | May 4, 2010, 2:23 pm
  16. I think i was the guitarist with the flatts for ever but cant remember. Can anybody help me.!!!!

    Posted by Curly | May 6, 2010, 6:35 pm
  17. Yep,…im sure i was…13 years of jack daniels induced blackouts and dizzy spells dont lie. All i ever wanted was to make it to the end of each gig and hit the bar. Im sure i was there. Im sure.. sure. x

    Posted by Curly | May 6, 2010, 6:43 pm
  18. 13 years of Jack Daniels induced blackouts? Sounds like you were an associate of Bertie to me mate 🙂

    Posted by Andy Doherty | May 10, 2010, 5:54 pm
  19. Seen Bertie the other day, he looks well.

    Those were the days….. miss the Pits, it was a great building and my 1st home in Brum 🙂

    Posted by Wee Stevie | July 29, 2010, 8:44 am
  20. I still have that Starfighters t-shirt. And I was one of the cast named on the back. The Pits. Crikey. Memories…
    Mr Costelloe – is that you?

    Posted by Sean | July 29, 2010, 8:44 pm
  21. Did the Starfighters ever tour Australia in the 1980’s.

    Posted by Maz | August 5, 2010, 2:30 am
  22. If they did tour Australia, it would have been in the very early 80s but I never heard any mention of it. Given the family connections, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility though.

    Sean – gag me with a spoon.

    Posted by Phil | September 1, 2010, 11:37 am
  23. Thanks for your feedback Phil.
    I was also wondering if anyone has any LIVE video of the band that they could post on “You Tube” as what is currently on there is disappointing.
    My other question is I have been unable to locate any CD’s of Starfighters and In-Flight Movie as they no longer seem to be in production. I thought about writing to Jive Records, Any ideas??

    Posted by Maz | September 8, 2010, 6:55 am
  24. Maz, both albums were re-released on CD in 2007 by High Vaultage Records in their Rule Britannia series. Starfighters is catalogue RB-1001 and In Flight Movis is catalogue RB-1002. There are usually copies to buy on Amazon if you don’t mind paying the best part of twenty quid each for them.

    Posted by Phil | September 10, 2010, 1:36 pm
  25. I think the Starfighters supported MSG (Michael Schenker Group) at the Wolverhampton Civic at my first ever gig. 1981 aged 10. Good days

    Posted by ANDY | September 20, 2010, 6:36 pm
  26. do any Bogarts/Barbs/Golden Eagle people look in here?

    Posted by jack (jacko) | November 19, 2010, 11:52 am
  27. I know Doug, lives down the road and is recording stuff, his son Doug is also incredibly talented and was in one of the biggest unsigned black metal bands in the uk.

    Posted by Jack | December 14, 2010, 5:40 pm
  28. Amazon.com now have In-Flight Movie Audio CD in stock if anyone would like to purchase the CD

    Posted by Maz | January 4, 2011, 4:36 am
  29. I met Bertie back in 86 working on Ozzy and Accept, he was doing the set and pyro, top bloke= genuine cool geezer, and… a hint of menace about him
    SALUT Bertie!

    Posted by Ted | April 13, 2011, 3:39 pm
  30. Vincent Flatts r out playing again and theres even a vincent flatts final drive page on facebook and e numbers on myspace..

    Posted by Paul | June 20, 2011, 7:29 pm

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